rational responsible way. and goes over to senate harry reid and kill the bill and you didn't hear that from congressman ellison, there's not truth from the other side and that's why both sides-- >> both sides say there isn't truth coming from the other side. and here is what i see when i see that exchange, i think this guy, do we have this guy to sit republicans and sit down and strike a deal on this? i'm sure there's some obstinate republican on the other side who is also going to give him a tough time. it's just a turn off. and these are elected representatives and people who trust to get something done for us? >> well, i think that the bottom line here is that what people really want to know is why-- what is up with the sequester, i think what people really want is for the sequester not to move forward and i think that's what the conversation needs to be about. if the sequester needs to move forward the estimates are that the 750,000-- you're going into talking points. >> no, i'm not. >> speaking to my point you can get the talking points online. >> this is not talking points.